Handling The First Time You Talk To Your Ex After The No Contact Rule (Live Coaching Session)


About a year ago I announced on my podcast that I was considering doing coaching. Of course, that coaching was going to be paid.

I know…

I know…

I’m greedy.

But that all changed a few months ago when I was sitting with my wife in my office and I asked her one simple question,

I want to create content that blows people away. Something that they have never seen before…

That’s when she suggested that instead of asking people for money to coach them that I do it for free.

I’ll admit, it took me a little while to fully wrap my head around the idea because no relationship consultant, dating coach or match maker would ever do what they do for free.

But I guess we do ? .

That’s what makes us different.

That’s why people trust us and continually come back to visit this site.

Enter Whitney!

Whitney was someone who I had been helping for about a month so I knew her situation pretty well. I had identified her as a potential coaching client because her situation was interesting enough to feature.

After some bartering back and forth we agreed that she would be the ideal first live coaching client that I would take on. Here’s the video of our session,

Now, the thing that I am expecting you to get out of this is the simple fact that this is free.

Also, I am doing these live coaching sessions to prove a point.

The Point I Want To Prove: That out of all the “get your ex back” people out there I am pretty much the only one who has the guts to get on camera and coach someone.

My belief has always been that the proof is in the pudding and someone shouldn’t be a coach to someone if they don’t know what they are doing.

In other words, I am trying to show you through actions that I know what I am talking about.

But enough of the “power trip” by me.

Let’s take a look at Whitney’s situation.

Whitney’s “In-Depth” Situation

Before we started our one hour live session I asked Whitney to send me anything she could to help me better her chances.

Well, she did just that.

She did just that in spades.

I remember opening up my email and receiving this uber long PDF document highlighting all of their important dates. Now, normally I would attach this document so you could see it with your own eyes. However, it’s important that we respect Whitney’s privacy.

So instead, I would like to show you the notes I took on her situation.

But before I do that I would like to let you in on what really is confusing Whitney.

Whitney want’s to know how to handle the first interaction with her ex boyfriend after the no contact rule.

That’s really where she stuck and really what we talked a lot about during this live coaching session.

Ok, so here is a quick rundown of her situation,

  • Whitney and her boyfriend were madly in love
  • He actually ended up flying her across the country to meet his parents
  • Things seemed to be going so well until “out of the blue” he broke up with her
  • Whitney guessed that the reasons for the breakup may have been the new roommates he had or a very serious health condition that he contracted

Hmm… you know what. We do a much better job of covering her situation in the actual recording so I will just leave it there.

I’d like to show you the notes I took on her situation

Looking at Whitney’s situation I can tell that there are going to be some major “headwinds” that she is going to face when it comes to getting him back.

The Major Headwind’s She Will Face

Headwind #1: Why Did He Really Break Up With Her?

Things seemed to be going so well and then “all of a sudden” he does a complete 180 and breaks up with her, why?

The Potential Reasons For Break Up:

  • The Health Condition (We have some evidence backing this up)
  • Going Too Fast, Too Soon (Not enough “chase” anymore.)
  • Something Unknown (Worst case scenario)

Headwind #2: Did You Date Long Enough To Form A Lasting Connection

Generally the better/stronger the connection that you have with your ex the easier it is to get them back.

She dated her ex for a little under two months. This probably wasn’t enough time to build a super strong connection.

So, we are going to have to find a way to make him establish more of a connection with her. We are going to try to weave that within her conversations with him.

My Personal Questions For Whitney

  1. What are your overall goals for a relationship with him? (Marriage, just dating and seeing where it goes?)
  2. Is there a major age difference between the two of you?
  3. Why do you want him back? What is your main reasons for wanting him back?

No Contact

Side Note: Most of the words written beyond this point are reminders to me on what to teach her during the live coaching call.

Whitney is actually in the minority of people who have approached the no contact rule in the right way. Make sure to congratulate her.

Make sure you make her list out every positive thing that she did during the no contact rule.

Has she utilized “The Holy Trinity?”

Emphasize the “Dating Yourself” philosophy to see if this is someone who she really wants to put the effort into winning back.


This seems to be where Whitney is stuck. She is afraid to start a conversation with her ex.

Her Goal With Texting Should Be…

The Tide Theory Mentality: Slowly but surely advancing the conversation intensity and frequency

The ultimate goal here is to get back on the speaking terms with her ex. Much like she was at the beginning of the relationship. However, I want her to be utilizing a few principles throughout the period that she attempts this.

Interdependence Theory: Teach her about the interdependence theory to highlight why he wouldn’t commit. Basically the interdependence theory states that human beings commit to each other based on a cost and benefit scenario. We try to maximize the benefits and minimize the costs. Three main factors are looked at,

  1. Satisfaction: Seemed high in his relationship with Whitney
  2. Alternatives: Average! I would say due to the fact that he might have wanted to live it up because of the health condition thing
  3. Investment: Low… 2 months dating?

Whitney can utilize her conversations with him to improve satisfaction, lower his alternatives and improve his investment in you

The other thing I want her to weave into her conversations is to utilize “The Peak-End Rule”

Peak-End Rule: Human beings usually remember an experience based on the peak of it and the end of it. Since you have such a STRONG peak and such an amicable end I think she would do well by doing subtle things to reinforce her peak or things that make him remember it.

Finally, I need to teach her how to construct a perfect first contact text message utilizing the following factors,

  1. Knowledge
  2. Story
  3. Action Phrase
  4. The Tie In (Optional)

The Results Of Our Coaching Session

Almost immediately after I had stopped recording our live coaching session Whitney wanted to try out the first contact text message that we had constructed on the coaching call.

I literally watched as she sent it to her ex.

Do you think he replied?

Of course he did!

I got this email from Whitney,

With this text message attached to it,

#dating #scams #datingscams #htcs
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11 thoughts on “Handling The First Time You Talk To Your Ex After The No Contact Rule (Live Coaching Session)

  1. EBR Team Member: Amor

    Hi May,
    did you mean you chased him before? if you assessbit from his perspective now would you still look like you’re chasing him?

  2. May

    Hello, broke up with my ex nearly a year ago. been talking now and then did all the steps and failed. Trying them again. This time im being more cautious. I didnt speak to him for 2 months. As im blocked everywhere i emailed him and said i had free theatre tickets from work and if he wanted one. He replied saying yes. Then we exchanged a few emails. literally one or 2 sentences. Its my bday in 2 weeks and all his mates are coming. I sent him another email saying all his mates will be there so if he wanted to come along he can. He said he would think about it. Got a message yday saying he will be coming.
    we havent been flirty on email but theyre just nice convos. not too friendly either. so the first time i’ll see him will be at my bday. im going to treat him like all my other friends but im nervous esp cos i dont know how it will go down.
    Why do you think he’s even coming to my bday? Just to be friends? although the last thing he said to me when we spoke 2 months ago is that we will never be friends.

  3. EBR Team Member: Amor

    when they didn’t improve.. If you’re going to breakdown on your first contact text, better not do it..

  4. Trish

    Thanks so much Amor! The hardest part is staying strong. This sounds so pathetic but the evening he pulled the plug (over text), I’ve never sobbed so much as I have that night. Couldn’t sleep for about 2 weeks afterwards. ? Am about 2 weeks away from the 45 day no contact but am tossing up about extending it until 50-60. In your experience, when should someone extend the no contact period?

  5. EBR Team Member: Amor

    Hi Ro,

    it’s moving too fast.. I’m not saying you should say no if he asks you back, but yes, continue on in the tide theory if he doesn’t ask you back..

  6. Ro

    Hi Chris and Amor,
    I just came out of NC less than a week ago and your advice worked well. Almost too well!!! Basically, my ex is totally skipping steps! My initial contact text was awesome, and I tried to end the conversation after a few texts, but he just kept it going and going. We’ve been out of NC for less than a week and are headed on our 3rd date tomorrow. Nothing physical, all totally PG, but I’m not sure what to do. He skipped phone calls, asked me straight out on day 1 of contact, skipped coffee and took me straight out for dinner. He’s made it totally obvious that he’s missing me and leaving me was a mistake. I think this is headed for reconciliation for sure, so do I keep going at the pace he’s setting? Or do I still try tide theory? I don’t want to mess it up because it seems like it’s going too well!

  7. EBR Team Member: Amor

    yes, do you want me to delete all of your comments?

  8. EBR Team Member: Amor

    Hi Trish,

    you’re already doing what you need to do.. just stay strong in it. And then take it slow when you get back in touch again. It looks like you already know what to do.. just be consistent with your developments.

  9. nicolle chadwick

    Hello. I am 8 months pregnant and my boyfriend and I just recently broke up. I am 24 years old and he is 23 years old. This is my first child and this is his second. I don’t know what to do. I want him back in my life. I broke him up with due to conflict in communication and the influence of his friends. We were only together for 7 months. Please help

  10. Trish

    Every breakup- I’ve had until now, I’ve been upset and heartbroken but always got through telling myself that I am better off without them (and they come back in one form or the other). BUT, all of this changed until my most recent break up. Would desperately love your advice/thoughts on this.

    In June, moved over to the other side of the world (An Australian in New York) and met someone pretty unexpectedly. Wasn’t really looking for anything as I was too busy trying to familiarise myself in a new environment (land the job, sort out the apartment, make some friends, travel etc). We decided that while we weren’t official (gf/bf), we were dating exclusively and really getting to know each other. Once I felt a lot more settled, we would then ‘officialise’ it. Long story short, got into a huge drunken row (over getting into a nightclub!) in August & he unexpectedly pulled the plug (after a month of needing ‘space’ & still wanting to see me!) . His rationale for breaking up was:
    1. He can’t see us get past the fight (where he was being a stubborn dick)
    2. I am not emotionally ready for this move (note: I didn’t know him until I moved up to NY and unfortunately he saw the vulnerable/emotional side to me as I experienced homesickness, job rejections & general unsettlement when you move half way across the world without a support system)
    3. He rather me ‘focus on doing my own thing’

    To say I was devastated is an understatement. Being heartbroken in a completely new country sucks! If we realised that we want different things in life/our values don’t match, then the breakup (to me) was justified. However, I feel like he just threw away a pretty good partnership.

    While I work on settling in & enjoying the expat experience, I would very much like to ‘win’ him back. Why: Apart from having the most epic physical, emotional, mental connection, I feel like we are very much on the same path (have same life goals) & we have SO much fun together. (24 hours before the drunken fight, he told me he’s had the best non-sex related date ever)

    Initially I
    1. Started the no contact rule but he got in touch re a death in his family. Responded like a gnat (2 x messages & 1 call to check up on him) but he didn’t respond back. I haven’t approached him since & am back to abiding by the no contact role.
    2. Deleted my social presence for about 2 weeks (deactivated my FB, Instagram) accounts to give myself some time off & him to miss me. Reactivated my accounts, posted a mix of professional & fun pics. (Sounds so superficial, but it feels good when over a 150 friends like your profile pic. Plus made me realise I’m not alone!)

    After the next 50 days of no contacting/responding, what can I do? Currently, in the midst of “doing my own thing” ; travelling, kicking butt at finding work, making new friends, working out. Any help is much appreciated!

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